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My thing is, I don't think God would create someone gay and then tell them "you're not allowed to be that way." You know?

Or, to argue it from a different perspective... just because we have certain desires doesn't mean we are born with them or that they are right. A person might have the DESIRE to, say, have sex with multiple partners, or have pre-marital sex, but that doesn't make it right. They can't go, "Oh, I'm a before-marriage sex-haver, it's just the way I was born, I can't help it, it's who I am" or "Oh I have to have sex with lots of people, it's how I was born." Or, to take it in a direction other than sex, people can't say "Oh I am a thief/liar/murder/insert anything else that society deems morally wrong/etc person but that's how I was born, so that's the lifestyle I'll live." No, people have those desires because of their sinful nature (or if you don't believe in sin, insert whatever word you want to for "something immoral" - and while we're on that track if there is morality and goodness what are you comparing it to, if there's no God... but I digress). People have those desires, but they can use their free will to CHOOSE to live a different life.

Sorry if my views offend anyone... like I said before, I have a love for all people, and I don't think I'm better or worse than anybody else, gay or straight or whatever. We're all imperfect people living in a fallen world and desperately in need of the grace that a very loving God freely gives!!

It just breaks my heart to see how much hurt and anger is centered around this topic whenever it comes up... Satan will do anything to turn peoples' focus off of Christ... I mean okay yeah the Bible says it's wrong for a man to have sex with another man... but that's one commandment that's mentioned a handful of times in the Bible, and guess what else, God loves gay people sooo much! He wants them to come to Him, just as they are, not try and "be" straight first, come to Him just as they are and He will take care of the rest. You know what else the Bible says? To love your neighbor as yourself... to take care of the widows and orphans... for those who are blessed with much to give to those who have little... so many people who call themselves Christians and who are SO quick to point the finger at people for being gay but are also ignoring these other commandments, and that just makes my heart sick. Yeah, you shouldn't live in sin. I don't understand the people who call themselves gay Christians, because Christian means follower of Christ, and you're not following Christ if you live a lifestyle that He said not to live. But guys, Satan USES all of this to take your eyes off Christ! He's been doing it since the dawn of time, he's a very good deceiver and he's on a rampage 'cause he knows his time is limited. Anything he can do to distract you from what's really important, he'll do.

Well, but let's say someone has sex before marriage-that is considered a sin, so that person shouldn't consider themselves a Christian?

I don't understand someone calling themself a gay Christian any more than I understand somebody who says they're a Christian but has sex with their boyfriend or girlfriend, or who says they're a Christian but is having an affair, etc etc. I mean, we're all sinners, there's nobody that's ever lived a perfect life, ever, except Jesus... we all mess up. But there is a huge difference between living IN the sin - blatant disregard for what God says to do - and messing up but repenting (180 degree turn the other way), accepting God's forgiveness and moving forward in the other direction.

That story about Steven Curtis Champan's daughter makes me feel ill. When Robert told me last night, I honestly wanted to throw up.... my heart breaks for their family...